The Empire did try to frame the Tusken Raiders in A New Hope for the murder of both Luke's aunt and uncle, as well as the Jawas. Using his leadership qualities and powers of manipulation, Palpatine restructured much of the Republic government, even bef… Palpatine was putting on a show for Anakin to gain sympathy and try to force Anakin's hand into turning on Mace to further propel him down the path of the Dark Side with no hope of return. Sheev Palpatine, a.k.a. His main goal at that point was separating Anakin from Obi-Wan, trying to alienate him from his Jedi support network. RELATED: Star Wars Vs. Star Trek: The Crossover That Will Never Happen - and Why, The theory was started by Reddit user Steinrikur on r/FanTheories, where he claimed he believed Palpatine either framed the Tusken Raiders, or outright manipulated them to make sure this key moment in Anakin's descent occurred in precisely the way that would best benefit Palpatine. 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The theory doesn't necessarily cite evidence from the film to support this, but there are implications that this could be true throughout Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith. Similar to Grand Moff Tarkin's secret Imperial research center, this subreddit is for delving deep into the intricacies of the Star Wars universe. As seen in The Mandalorian, they have an advanced form of communication. So the Jedi send Obi-Wan to Utapau to capture or kill Grievous with a battalion of Clone troops. In Legends canon, Jedi have emerged from their ranks, such as Sharad Hett and A'Sharad Hett. However, mind control only works on the weak minded. The theory was started by Reddit user Steinrikur on r/FanTheories, where he claimed he believed Palpatine either framed the Tusken Raiders, or outright manipulated them to make sure this key moment in Anakin's descent occurred in precisely the way that would best benefit Palpatine. 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At least, that was always my assumption on his reasoning. The Tusken Raiders would not be so easy to mind control. Vol. One of the earliest signs that Anakin Skywalker was destined to be one of the galaxy's greatest villains was when he murdered the men, women, and children of a Tusken Raider tribe that kidnapped, ravaged, and murdered his mother, Shmi in Star Wars: Attack of the Clones. The Skywalker saga is the story of Palpatine's rise to power, his defeat, and his attempt to regain power once again. A legitimate reason to activate Order 66 2. This. While Anakin would later tell Palpatine about his attack on the Tusken Raiders, Palpatine very readily uses it as a point of manipulation against Anakin, to convince him to give into his violent urges once again. The Empire did try to frame the Tusken Raiders in. In the novelization of Revenge of the Sith, he makes several remarks to the effect that he clearly has no qualms about killing “Chancellor” Palpatine , or letting him die as a result of his hostage status. The council basically says no and sends Obi-Wan instead. Grievous captures Palpatine in an effort to lure Anakin to kill Dooku. However, both Luke and Obi-Wan saw through the trick in seconds. Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker explains why Palpatine wanted Luke to kill him in Return of the Jedi.Emperor Palpatine is the great villain of the Star Wars saga, an evil so great his death was necessary to restore balance in the Force itself. RELATED: Star Wars Legends: The Reign of Darth Krayt and the One Sith. Not long after the Battle of Coruscant, Jedi Knight Anakin Skywalker began experiencing visions of his wife, Padmé Amidala, dying in childbirth. My theory is that he either staged the attack and delivered Shmi to the sand people to torture, or he bribed/tricked/persuaded them to attack the farm and kidnap the woman. Anakin just wouldn't have been worthy to be his apprentice. But even without those, Anakin is in no way needed for Palpatine's plans. Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader: I don't want to hear any more about Obi-Wan. If Palpatine did manipulate circumstances surrounding Shmi, then it would stand to reason that he might have manipulated circumstances to create this point of leverage over Anakin. Asadora! Palpatine is rescued by Anakin and Obi-Wan, but not before the Jedi confront Dooku again. The Tusken Raiders would not be so easy to mind control. I'm pretty sure Palps knew the council would reject the idea. Lifelong lover of comics, anime, and weird films. The second plan is if the Jedi agreed to send him, I think he'd first paint Anakin to the people as the sole hero of the Republic, as if Anakin had ended the war all on his own. Obi-Wan's lightsaber style was uniquely suited to combating Grievous, and the Council would be aware that even Mace Windu had struggled against Grievous in lightsaber combat when he tried to use his much more aggressive style. I think he'd also plant seeds of distrust in Anakin, especially if he didn't receive the Master rank after defeating Grievous, you know things like "they wouldn't have sent you if I didn't ask" and "they're idiots for not making you a Master after you won the war for them" and things like that. Like someone else has mentioned he also might very well have had plans for the possibility of Anakin actually being sent. No. ... General Grievous (Voice): ... [Mace Windu tries to kill Palpatine] NO! A subreddit dedicated to in-depth discussion of the Star Wars franchise. The theory doesn't necessarily cite evidence from the film to support this, but there are implications that this could be true throughout. However, both Luke and Obi-Wan saw through the trick in seconds. Nonetheless, Darth Sidious has personally taken out his fair share of Jedi, namely the team that was sent to arrest him, led by Mace Windu that consisted of Knights Kit Fisto, Saesee Tin, and Agen Kolar. I am trying to figure out just how many people knew Palpatine, as Sidious, was controlling both sides of the Clone Wars. If Obi-Wan had been in the Office with Mace and Anakin he possibly would have kept Anakin on the light side. Darth Sidious, has always been an enigmatic character in Star Wars lore, and much of his role in the saga remains shrouded in … He knew the council wouldn’t send Anakin to Grievous. More posts from the MawInstallation community. Manipulating Anakin in much the same way is very much in-line with what would happen. On top of that, rooting out Grievous from hiding would be better handled by Obi-Wan's subtle tactics (yes, I know jumping down right in front of Grievous wasn't that subtle, but Obi-Wan got to that point by having R4 take his ship out, thus making it look like Obi-Wan had left and allowing him to get close to Grievous). It is inconceivable that it was just a coincidence that his mother was killed in such a way by the Sand people. If Palpatine hadn't said anything the Council may have sent Kit Fisto after Grievous than Obi-Wan would still be on Coruscant. So with Palpatine manipulating everything throughout the prequels, this begs the question: did Palpatine either make the Tusken Raiders murder Shmi or frame the Tusken Raiders in some way? "The Lars farm was attacked twice. Click the button below to start this article in quick view. If Palpatine bribed the Tusken Raiders to kidnap and murder Shmi, they would have requested a lot of technology or weaponry which they do not have when Anakin raids their camp. Citizens, politicians, reporters, entrepreneurs, and government … Earned my MFA from Fairleigh Dickinson University. Furthermore, after the events of Attack of the Clones, Palpatine tries to become a mentor to Anakin. Description: This is an alternate universe series about what would have happened if Anakin did not decide to kill Dooku in Star Wars Episode 3: Revenge of the Sith. Content in video is expressed using PG-13 rated movies and Teen + rated comics, TV shows, video games, and books; and is not intended for children. So I think They gave Grievous a part to come in to get Obi Wan away from Dooku and let Anakin … When the Mandalorian and Toro Calican ask for permission to cross the Dune Sea, they request to barter. I like the idea of Palpatine just pushing the limits to see what he could get away with ON TOP of the culmination of a thousand years of Sith scheming. for the murder of both Luke's aunt and uncle, as well as the Jawas. RELATED: Star Wars: 10 Legends Sith Lords Who Should Be Added Back To Cannon. For example Palpatine send Vader to the Jedi Temple not to kill the future Jedi (that could have easily been done just by the 501st Legion) but because he knew that killing children would be something that Padme could never forgive and that this would turn Padme against Vader/Anakin and thus tear their love apart. Nineteen years before the Battle of Yavin, of the Clone Wars that were fought between the Galactic Republic and the Confederacy of Independent Systems, Supreme Chancellor Palpatine—secretly Darth Sidious, the Dark Lord of the Sith, who controlled both factions—orchestrated his own kidnapping from Coruscant, the capital planet of the Republic. Otherwise he's initiate order 66 without Anakin and recruit him afterwards. Probably like you said, he was banking on the council rejecting his idea outright simply because he had been the one to propose the idea. He's already planning on making Anakin his apprentice long before he disposes of Dooku. St. Teresa of Avila famously wrote, “Let nothing disturb you, let nothing frighten you, all things will pass away God never changes; patience obtains all things, whoever has God lacks nothing. With that said, it's almost certain that Dooku did know the truth about the Chancellor, and that the criticism and kidnapping was all part of Dooku's act to foster war within the galaxy. General Grievous probably didn't (or he wouldn't have tried to crash the Invisible Hand). [Anakin … Steinrikur states in his theory, "Palpatine was playing Anakin like a fiddle the whole time, and this was a huge ste… However, mind control only works on the weak minded. In Legends canon, Jedi have emerged from their ranks, such as Sharad Hett and A'Sharad Hett. simply because he had been the one to propose the idea. Palpatine was at that point very sure the council wouldn't send Anakin (as they among other reasons needed him on Coruscant to keep and eye on Palps himself). A one-stop shop for all things video games. So was Palpatine counting on the fact that the council would reject his idea because he suggested it, which would obviously anger Anakin a bit? God alone suffices.” Waiting is a huge key to success. Palpatine ruthlessly discarded all his damaged and useless apprentices, so why did he go to such great lengths to save Anakin and turn him into Darth Vader? The backstory of General Grievous varies depending on whether you follow Star Wars canon or Legends, but two things remain the same; he hates the Jedi, and his cyborg body enables him to fight the Jedi on even footing despite not being Force-sensitive. He has been taken aboard the Invisible Hand. Manipulating Anakin in much the same way is very much in-line with what would happen. Covering the hottest movie and TV topics that fans want. I assume Grievous didn’t know that they were the same person, but Palpatine took a big chance that Grievous didn’t just kill him. After he escapes, he talks with Lord Sidious. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Just as … The second time it was storm troopers posing as Tusken radiers, killing Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru. For one, the Empire at large underestimates and misunderstands Tusken Raider culture. He was trying to stroke anakins ego. -general grievous-duchess satine _fallen anakin_ * First batch *-anakin skywalker (padawan)-General skywalker-jedi knight anakin-resolute * second batch *-padme amidala-ahsoka tano - senator palpatine-darth sidious * third batch *-R2-D2-C-3PO-Rex-Anakin's Eta-2 Starfighter clone wars data: the resolute is the capital ship of anakin We know Palpatine manipulates the Separatists and the Republic, secretly plots the creation of the Clone Army, and indirectly convinces Jar-Jar into giving Palpatine emergency power. Which leads to the other aspect of the theory suggesting the Tusken Raiders were framed. Palpatine suggested Anakin and figured the Council would do the opposite, which they did by sending Obi-Wan. RELATED: 10 Incredible General Grievous Cosplays (That Every Star Wars Fan Needs To See) While Grievous has a reputation … I think Palpatine had two plans with this other than stroking Anakin's ego and pride; The first one is if they didn't send him (which is ultimately what happened) he would be like "oh the Jedi don't trust you and don't appreciate you, and they're idiots because you're obviously the best" the things like that. Did Palpatine kill Padme using the Japor Snippet The first major piece of evidence is the fact that Palpatine tells Anakin early on that he can show him how to … But he didn't tell Dooku that." . During the Resistance briefing, someone whispers “to cheat death,” an allusion to Palpatine’s line to Anakin in Revenge of the Sith: “To cheat death is a … In Revenge of the Sith, the "captured" Palpatine eggs Anakin on to kill Dooku, prompting a look of betrayal in the Count's face.It's possible that Palpatine's leaking bloodlust … Palpatine knew that Anakin’s feelings for Padmé would grow if they ever came into contact again. If Shmi's kidnapping was somehow framed on the Tusken Raiders, it would have been obvious. If Anakin is beyond his grasp at the time the rest of Palpatine's plans need to be executed, he would simply let him die in Order 66 and wouldn't look back. 2 comments 71% Upvoted Hundreds of millions of droids have … Palpatine knows both Anakin And Obi Wan are going to come, but it would be very tricky to get Obi Wan away from Dooku to see if Anakin could defeat Dooku. Steinrikur states in his theory, "Palpatine was playing Anakin like a fiddle the whole time, and this was a huge step in his journey towards the dark side. Coincidence?". The Emperor, aka the galaxy's greatest villain Sarth Didious, wanted to leave Anakin to burn to death on Mustafar. Dooku most likely gets arrested, and Palpatine tries to off him while he's locked up. Written for The Mary Sue, ScreenRant, The Anime Feminist, The Gamer, and Vocal. While this was probably the main part of Palpatine's reasoning, I'd like to add that it probably wasn't the only reason the Council didn't send Anakin in Legends. It's confirmed in various points throughout the modern and Legends canon that Palpatine used the force to manipulate all elements of the world around him, from suppressing the Jedi's force abilities to helping his henchmen become more proficient at combat. Dooku might rat on him though - hard to say. As the Chancellor, it became his job to pretend he cared if he wanted Anakin … I always thought that this was a particularly nice example of reverse psychology and devious strategy on the part of Palpatine. Which leads to the other aspect of the theory suggesting the Tusken Raiders were framed. Once he helped Palpatine kill Mace Windu however, Anakin was resigned to doing whatever he needed to save his wife, which included killing the younglings in order to grow his dark side capabilities. Originally the Senate Representative for the Mid Rim planet of Naboo, Palpatine used his connections and charisma to depose his predecessor Finis Valorum and assume the mantle of Chancellor. Because if they had sent Anakin, we all know he could’ve killed grievous, and then Palpatine couldn’t have convinced him to switch over to the dark side, as the war was over, and the senate would’ve stopped the war before Palpatine could get to Anakin, so what was his logic? 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