Yacht TV. But that all changed in recent years with the advent of modern materials that make much lighter planing and foiling boats possible. Boat Reviews. It can handle most anything that you can expect in a small to moderate lake. Currently racing a Melges 24 and loving it, but slightly worried the F24 will feel a little leaden by comparison, particularly upwind. Fun boat. Equally at home crossing the channel or exploring estuaries. J70 is a good suggestion. Would love to see some photos / brief video of your traveller setup if you have a moment. 77 years young and still looking for fun and fast. Fuel tankage is a bit limited, with only 8 gallons capacity, but because the boat is light enough to sail when others motor, this should be sufficient for all but extended cruises. God’s rewards for surviving parenthood. The deck is a sandwich of balsa , fiberglass and polyester . Yes, and the shoals move. I wonder why on the colgate site they don't show a single pic of down below.. Big difference in pricing, but I’d agree the Bene is a better choice. Aren't the Colgate boats built at Precision Boatworks? Second-hand sailing boats boat for sale in Barcelona. Jun 22, 2015. So Kiwi Clipper, I am still confused about the sail options...  Beneteau uses two different words to describe the largest sail (60m2) that is part of the standard package. So not phsyched out. and, well, its heavy. The US price I paid to Seascape with a lot of extras was just over $90k. Colgate 26 has a well deserved reputation for being rugged. Yanmar 10hp diesel. USNA has a fleet of them for training new plebes how to sail. They would like a boat that can do the following, Race, Booze Cruise, poke around Lake Norman, NC. Brooks . Hah! Where you are, I think seaworthiness is always going to be an issue. My G-5 came as at extra charge, with the boat. After this boat, they would all be more modern fractionally rigged. the 7.9's have pretty good room down below (5' 10" headroom), with a head even ! It's a really good boat to learn on. Lost upwind. Twin runners would be a step too far for me, great as they are for pointing, given the already compromised nature of the jib setup. It has 4 'berths", but zero ventilation (other than the hatch) and no amenities. Given that the Beneteau is new, there aren't any PHRF ratings out there to see where it will fall. I loved my Mac 26 it is a very capable trailerable boat that is fast in light conditions. The specs say otherwise, so I'm sure I'm unnecessarily concerned! Yacht TV. With a little Worked out of South Seas Resort in 1985-6. Bissona:  All reasonable concerns.We haven't raced this one yet, and in our area, we have  wind in the 15-25 knot range along with the seas that come with that wind. The bene = latest and greatest all purpose racer/cruiser. When I get into more extreme conditions with my Go Pro,  I will post it. After all, its rating compares favorably to a J-24, S2 7.9, Capri 25, Merit 25, Kirby 25, etc, etc. She was built between 1984 and 1989 by Bénéteau (France). And to weather in bigger waves, you have to pick your way through the waves. If money is no object, go for the Bene. The 24 draws around 6'7" keel down so I would consider getting the short keel version that will get you up into the shallower waters of the river entrances and bays. She came with a lifting keel as standard. Is that the Code 5 option (AV H60) you're talking about or the 'Fractional Gennaker'? YachtWorld currently has 2,318 Beneteau yachts for sale, including 491 new vessels and 1,827 used yachts, listed by experienced boat dealerships mainly in the following countries: United States, France, United Kingdom, Spain … 2:57. One has a lifting keel, is lighter = much easier to travel with. sailboat Bénéteau First 26). Wing keel Colgate 26 was actually pretty quick on free legs. The PH ratings spell the difference:  The S-2 7.9 comes in at about 170 --- whereas my SSCP 24 PH rating is 93 overall and 58 for offwind races. Anyone that would be seriously considering buying a brand new Colgate 26 for private use doesn't know enough about boats to be buying one. I'm looking to sea trial a First/SS 24 in the next few weeks as, apart from rating, it ticks all boxes. You are ok going up most rivers even if you draw 6 or 7 feet, then you can always fully retract the kill to motor to or close to shore and even though it’s not recommended by the manufacturer (liability), I am pretty sure that when in a bind, you can sail in light winds with the keel 1/3 up. They would like a boat that can do the following, Race, Booze Cruise, poke around Lake Norman, NC. The Colgate 26 was built to be a sail trainer and take a lot of abuse. Last update: 15th March 2020 The First 26 is a 25’5” (7.75m) cruiser-racer sailboat designed by Finot Conq Architectes (France). In contrast, the seascape boats are much lighter with much faster sail area/weight and length/weight  ratios. They are learning but plan to race and travel with the boat alot in the future. The boat goes really well up wind with just main sail and No. The French firm Beneteau was formed in 1884 as a builder of wooden fishing boats and switched to building fiberglass recreational vessels in 1964. Beneteau First 30 (2011-2015) MYS Beneteau First 30 Page; Beneteau 300. We recently came across this fun video in which “family guy” Martin Olesen finds himself aboard a Beneteau First 27 trying to set a new class short-distance speed record in what can only be described as “challenging” conditions (to say the least). I guess they could hit a NOOD in Annapolis of FL. Archived Beneteau First 26 The beneteau first 26 is a fabulous sailing yacht for striking out into the world of cruiser sailing. Boat Reviews and Walkthroughs; Neil Pryde Sails. My advice - learn to sail on a beater boat until comfortable with something performance, then if those are the 2 choices? I love my SSCP 24 and wouldn't trade it because it is always a livelier sail than the more traditiona boats, and I love the high performance potential. It took 30 minutes to launch our F27 for day sailing, 40 if the bow sprit was going on for racing. She is available in either sterndrive or outboard versions, and her interior boasts some creative thinking on the part of the design team. Current Price: EUR 78,720 Tax Paid (US$ 95,558) The First 27 is a small towable sports cruiser packed with potential. First 24 w/o a doubt. Resale value would be safer with a Colgate, seems a lot cheaper and less depreciation, unless they win a lot of races in the Beneteau. New boats are a bad idea for new sailors. 2 of 12 pages. 9:07 [ITA] BENETEAU FLYER 8 SUNDECK - The Boat Show. Regarding races and ratings,  I got my boat thinking I would race it. Beneteau Oceanis 51.1 Review. Many used boats are waiting here for its buyer (eg. Went back after 13 years at St. Pete Yacht Club. That foot of draft costs many square miles of fun water. I came in second with the only wing version. Inside the Beneteau First 27 a.k.a Seascape 27. 2019 Beneteau Flyer 8 SpaceDeck … Beneteau First 260 Spirit. Here´s what I derived from going on a trip on the FIRST 30 as a small sea trial and review of this boat. The finish was really nice,  all the design ideas were well executed. For boats of the same length, generally the higher the S#, the lower the PHRF. I also posted a companion upwind video also on vimeo. 2020 Beneteau Oceanis 35.1. I think the point here is that the hull form of this boat is by far superior to any I have seen, and this will turn out to be a boat on which there are fine tunes for years to come. Also, the boat will be kept on a lift at the Yacht Club. Yeah, you have to hit them more frequently than that to stay current. I am a bit torn by the shorter keel option... first it doesn’t come cheap ($2,500) and it adds 200lbs which will put a bit of a dent in light air performance and increase the trailer weight. Small, second-hand, inexpensive yachts such as this Beneteau First 27.7 are a great way to dip your toe into boat ownership (Photo: JM Liot/Groupe Finot). Lenny Rudow. What Beneteau refers as the Code 5 option seem to be a mid-size asymmetric spinnaker for sailing downwind above 20kt. Brooks . The popular First 36.7 offers real dual-purpose sailing. Stepping aboard I rushed down below whilst Tim was taking off the tarp from the boom and prepared the boat. At least it looks fun to sail. The contrast is even greater in planing conditions...at least 12 to 15, but less in light winds when they do not plane. The buyer would have re-rig the boat on delivery. The Swing keel version features an appendage configuration without compromise between draft and performance. Twitter. But the rating was mostly based on sailing performance by the dealer and a few other really, really good sailors. Boat Reviews. The previous owner had done a complete renovation of the interior in 2016. We replaced the tie rod connectors the second day we sailed one with stainless ones we found in Chicago. Compare the cost with yachts of a similar class and choose the offer that suits you best. See:https://vimeo.com/348523354. VAT) TAGS: Boat tests Boats. You can buy nice, race-ready versions of any of these boats for less than $20k, usually with new(ish) sails and will likely be worth the same in 5 years as they are now. Your North agent should be able to tell you what AWA the sails are designed for. Beneteau Flyer 8.8 Sundeck Video: First Look. Jean-Marie FINOT designs an 8.20-metre vessel with a real aft cabin and a separate fore cabin. One is in much lighter conditions with the lilac colored A-5. Production. I am keeping my Beneteau 40.7 for offshore sailing. Slovenia...is that a little better? Bubble, bubble, said the exhaust of the boss' truck when that thing finally came free. https://www.northsails.com/sailing/en/products/racing-asymmetric-spinnakers. and comes with a top down (I think) furler. Fort Myers and South Seas Resort had plenty of water; just stay inside the lines. For the minimalist, the 18 is a cost effective workable option for camper/cruisers wanting to go solo. I've been offshore racing for 50 years. First 24 = Seascape 24. Also, I most likely will be the skipper to start until the owners are more comfortable in regatta situations. They are noted as G-0 to G-5. Even more than the Farr 38 I used to have, when you get some extra air, it accelerates instead of loading up. The hull has been structured for that use. kind of a step up from the other two boats...   looks like a nice choice, Class web site says headroom in a 7.9 is 5’5”. A couple of items:   The terms are used a little bit loosely. There are 4-5 other J70's for Wed night racing and if you add the U20 crowd there will be about a dozen to race against. Zero thruhulls, very low maintenance. In this, it shares to some extent, sailing characteristics of the Colgate 26. Bulletproof. Request a sail quote or information; Neil Pryde “how to” videos ; Neil Pryde Sails International; Service. Steve Colgate won with new sails. They are torn between a new Colgate 26 ($45k) or the brand new Beneteau First 24 ($67k). Scratch the Colgate from the list. muchmodified 1991 version of the First 26, first launched in 1984. Administrator. BTW the jib in the videos is the number 2. 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